Wednesday, 15 August 2012

Karizma R vs R15


Performance: Even though at the first glance Karizma seems to overpower the R15 in terms of displacement, the 150cc engine of R15 cannot be downgraded in terms of engine size alone. With a host of special features like liquid cooling, DIASIL cylinder and six speed transmission Yamaha R15 simply rocks. Ok lets not get too much into the details, lets analyze the feel…
I took a blue Yamaha R15 to the highways today. I was excited for sure. I did not bring my helmet with me, so I had to calm myself down from revving too much, but I couldn’t keep up. I pushed the engine upto 117kmph and it refused to go any further. I have heard many users that they have tried upto 140kmph, the fastest ever speed for an Indian bike, but I do not know what is wrong with this unit. The engine had clocked 2,000 kms so far. In Karizma I have pushed it upto 120kmph. While Karizma vibrates a little at that speed, R15 is like a rock, no vibration at all!
One thing that is clearly evident is that the riding position is far different in this bike. While you sit in an upright position in Karizma, R15 needs you to sit in a real sporty position. So what difference does it make? Well, you are 2-3 times more confident in R15 than in Karizma at such speeds. The aerodynamic sitting posture makes the difference. The air hits our chest at an inclination and escapes easily below our arms which reduces air friction. You cannot expect that in a Karizma unless you volutarily lean down which becomes a little uncomfortable. Regarding pickup, Yamaha R15 does not give me enough adrenalin as that of Karizma. If R15 had a 200cc engine atleast, this would have been taken care of.
Handling: There are big differences between these two bikes when it comes to handling. In Karizma you can easily manage the turns in the urban streets, the sitting posture is similar to other bikes and it is easy for you to take your foot to the ground to get your balance in case the bike slows down too much. This is very difficult in R15. The sitting posture requires you to fold your legs at an acute angle and have your foot a little higher than the other bikes, thus when you need to suddenly slow down for a sharp turn in the city road, it is uncomfortable to bring the leg all the way down. So if you are not going to use R15 much in the highways, then you will not get a good return on investment of your bike. Consider Yamaha FZ16 for exclusive urban commute. Karizma seems to manage both highway riding and city travel.
Comfort: Both the bikes are the flagship models of two big companies in India, so you need not worry much about the comfort. Eventhough the sitting posture is different in the two bikes, you can still have an ultra ergonomic posture. I have not found any particular uncomfort in the Karizma, but one tiny thing which bothers me in R15 is the gear shifting. Unless you are wearing a good shoe, it is very difficult to bend your ankles to shift up the gear if you are wearing leather shoes or casual sandals. I would advice you to notice this if you test R15.
Dashboard: Karizma features three units in the dashboard, the first one is the tachometer, then the speedo meter (analog) and the last unit has clock, fuel gauge, trip meter and ODO meter. In Yamaha R15, the speedometer is digital and tachometer is analog. The digital console also incorporates fuel gauge, trip and ODO meter.
Looks: I need not say anything about this. We all know that Yamaha R15 is the most gorgeous sexy bike ever. Since it is derived from the R1, there is no question of comparing it with Karizma. Perhaps in the near future, Hero Honda will clone CBRs and other Honda sports bikes, but nothing is for sure. Anyway even in the foriegn countries, Yamaha has always won the beauty competition. The only lack I feel in the R15 is the ultra thin bi-cycle like rear tyres. The tyres are well designed for performance, but broad tyres really give out that manly look which I feel is very important when the price of R15 is placed at Rs.1,00,000 plus.

Conclusion:
I cannot give a trophy to one of the bikes because I love them both and each do not compete directly with each other. Karizma is for the status, city ride and occasional high speed cruising. R15 is for pure biking enthusiasts who feel like heaven while cruising in the highways, that’s why Yamaha has given the additional 6th gear for R15. Go for Yamaha R15 if you accept that it is a little difficult to handle in sharp turns. Difficult in the sense, I mean it is not easy as Karizma. Go for the latter if you are a fan of Hero Honda and want ease in urban roads.
Even though this review is a good guide for you, when you are making a big invesment to buy such premium bikes, always drive it yourself and weigh your priorities. For some people, the stunning looks of R15 may be addictive and would buy them even they do not get a chance of riding in highways much and will later regret it. Focus on what you really want, is it status, looks, performance, ease of handling or pride of branding and choose the best bike for yourself.

Hero Honda Karizma R models

Hero Honda launched its much-awaited and ambitious bike model, Hero Honda Karizma ZMR PGM FI, in India. The bike is to compete especially Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS-i. The new bike houses a good number of changes over carburetor versio..

Hero Honda Karizma ZMR PGM Fi Price : Rs. 91000

Starting : Self start, Kick Start
Displacement : 223cc
Fuel Economy : 35 kmpl

KARIZMA Review 3


Hero Honda Karizma R Review

Appearance

Hero Honda Karizma R Right view Picture The engineers at the Hero Honda did all they can to give this machine a macho, international look. The front headlamp is a great job indeed and Hero Honda brings modern day superbike style to India with it. The other attractive feature is the perfect carving of the body and bold new graphics. Every portion of the bike is balanced as its tale is made in the right proportion of the tank. The company has kept with the times, and grafted an aircraft-type fuel filler cap onto the tank. Apart from these, there is a stylish under cowl.

The stylish console is high-tech with bright yellow background which make clear visibility in daytime too. The dashboard incorporated three dial shape meters. Large speedometer placed at the centre and rest dials houses tripmeter, fuel gauge and techometer. Digital fuel indicator makes it really a hi-fi technical bike. This is the first bike in various aspects like it has pre-installed alloy wheels. The bike has dual tail lamps that is first time introduced in the country. The rear suspension comes in a dash of red. Under the rear suspension, muffler is sparking with new heat shield in classy chrome finish. The front panels of the Karizma R are amazing.

Engine

Hero Honda Karizma R engine view Picture Karizma R comes with a 223cc single cylinder, air-cooled, OHC, four stroke engine that packs a maximum power of 17bhp at 7000rpm and maximum torque of 18.35 Nm@6000rpm. It has a wheel base of 1355mm and kerb weight is 150kgs. It has a ground clearance of 150mm. The engine has a support for single cylinder and the electrical specifications of Hero Honda Karizma R are 12V, 7.0 Ah and Digital - CDI (AMI - Advanced Microprocessor Ignition System). The Karizma is started by kick and self start. It has 5-speed constant mesh type transmission. A stronger multi-plate clutch is used to take care of the enhanced power and torque figures. The chassis of the motorbike is diamond shaped while the rear suspension is equipped with hydraulic shock absorber to ensure smooth riding even in bumpy terrain. It uses one down and 4 up gears and the handling of the bike is quite simple even for people with average height.

Acceleration

Hero Honda Karizma R speedometer view Picture Apart from breaking the 200cc barrier, the bike breaks fresh grounds in the acceleration front. 0 - 60 Kmph in 3.8 Seconds which is perhaps the best in the similar kind of bikes. Likewise 0-100 kmph in just 14.05 seconds and 0-400 kmph in just 18.79 seconds. Maximum Speed is 125.6 kmph. Braking on the Karizma is superb and it is designed to bring this bulky 150kg-bike and rider to rest from 60kph in 19.84 metres.

Fuel Efficiency

Hero Honda Karizma R oil tank view Picture You can get an average mileage of about 40 kmpl in city conditions and around 47 kmpl on highways . CV carburetor with a variable ignition system that alters timing based on engine power and throttle position. Its mid size fuel tank can keep 15 liters of petrol plus two litres reserve.

Colours

The stylish bike is available in four vibrant colours. You can opt from sport red, black, moon yellow and vibrant blue. The attractive colours give the bikini deadly looking. Available colours Are : Hero Honda Karizma R different colour palette view Picture Hero Honda Karizma R different colour palette view Picture Hero Honda Karizma R different colour palette view Picture Hero Honda Karizma R different colour palette view Picture Hero Honda Karizma R different colour palette view Picture

Brakes

Hero Honda Karizma R disk brake view Picture In view to provide gentle halting of the bike, the beast is provided with front disc brakes that is dia 276mm non-asbestos type. While rear brakes comes in internal expanding shoe type with dia 130mm non-asbestos type.

Suspension

Hero Honda Karizma R shocker view Picture Now look at the suspension in the motorbike. Nicely shaped front suspension is telescopic hydraulic shock absorbers and the rear one is 5 step adjustable type hydraulic shock absorbers with swing arm. That means you have five options to adjust the suspension for different roads. No doubt, the feature allow you to enjoy jerkfree riding experience.

Wheels and Tyres

Hero Honda Karizma R wheels and tyre view Picture The machine posses nice looking five-spoke die alloy wheels which support the balance and weight of bike. The tyres size are perfect with the specifications of 2.75X18-42 p (front) and 100/90-18-56 p (rear).

Wheel Base and Controlling

The wheelbase is quite awesome as it has 1335mm wheel base. The large wheelbase is responsible for stability and control in various road and weather conditions. Disc brakes and adjustable sock absorbers adds to the safety, control and smooth ride.

Comfortness

Hero Honda Karizma R Seet view Picture The tank with its sculpted knee recesses adds to the great biker feel as does the super saddle which makes the straddling posture so very inviting. Ride for the pillion is equally comfortable as the rear suspension is generally set perfectly for the average Indian pillion. Riding posture is a bit sporty but comfortable. Karizma R is relatively heavy and stable bike which is more due to long wheelbase that keeps it well planted to the ground even at high speeds.

Pros

The looks of the bike is sporty. In spite of high engine cc it gives fuel efficiency.

Cons

Hero Honda Karizma is not that good in its acceleration as compared to other high quality features 

Karizma Vs Pulsar 220

Vehicle Comparison


Bajaj

Pulsar 220


Bajaj Pulsar 220  Review and ImagesRs. 85,000
Hero Honda

Karizma R


Hero Honda Karizma R  Review and ImagesRs.89,000

VEHICLE SUMMARY

Type:Commuter Sports
Top Speed:135kph 145kph
Fuel Consumption:
City
- 35.00
Fuel Consumption:
Highway
- 45.00

ENGINE SPECIFICATIONS

Displacement:220cc 223cc
Engine:Air Cooled 223cc, 4-Stroke
Maximum Power:20.06ps@8500rpm 17 Bhp @ 7000 rpm
Maximum Torque:19.12nm@6000rpm 18.35 Nm @ 6000 rpm
Gears:5 Speed 5 Speed
Clutch:177 Multiplate Wet
Bore:67 65.5
Stroke:62.4 66.2
No. of Cylinders: - 1
Cylinder Configuration:NA NA
Valve Per Cylinder: - -
Engine Block Material:NA NA
Chassis Type:NA Tubular Single Cradle, Diamond Type
Cooling Type: - Air Cooling
Carburetor:NA NA
Motor Power: - -
Motor Range: - -
Paddling Arrangement - -
0 to 60:4.84 sec. 3.80 sec.
100 to 0: - -

DIMENSIONS

Length:2035.00 mm 2125.00 mm
Width:750.00 mm 755.00 mm
Height:1140.00 mm 1160.00 mm

OTHER SPECIFICATIONS

Weight:136.00 kg 150.00 kg
Ground Clearance:177.00 mm 150.00 mm
Fuel Tank:15.00 ltrs 15.00 ltrs
Wheelbase:1350.00 mm 1355.00 mm
Turn Circle:0.00 mtrs 0.00 mtrs
Electrical System:NA 12V - 7 Ah - 188 W Alternator
Headlamp:NA 35W/35W - Halogen
Battery Type: - -
Battery Voltage: - 12V
Battery Capacity: - 7Ah
Battery Charger Type: - -
Horn:NA NA
Wheel Type: - Alloys
Wheel Size:90/90-17 tubeless, 120/80-17 tubeless mm 2.75x18 42P - 100/900x18 56 P mm
Tubeless:

Colors:NA Force Silver, Spotlight White, Sport Red, Darling Yellow and Power Black.

ACTIVE AND PASSIVE SAFETY

Suspension(Front):37 mm telescopic hydraulic type 130 mm (5.1 in) travel Telescopic Hydraulic Shock Absorbers
Suspension(Rear): Ellipitical section swingarm with twin hydraulic gas-charged shock absorbers; 101 mm (4 in) travel Swing Arm with 5 Step Adjustable Type Hydraulic Shock Absorbers
Brakes:260mm disc 276mm Disc - Non Asbestos Type
Brakes(Rear):230mm dia Disc 130mm Drum - Internal Expanding Shoe Type
Stand Alarm:


COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE

Fuel Guage:Digital Digital
Self Start:

Tacho Meter:Analogue Analogue
Trip Meter:Digital-1 Digital-2
Alloys:

Warranty:NA NA
Speedometer:Digital Analogue



























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KARIZMA Review 2

“A car carries body but a bike carries soul”. I read this line several times but realised only after riding one of my dream bike- Hero Honda’s old war horse Karizma.

Hello everybody, I am Umesh Prasad Rout (UPR) from Bhubaneswar, Odisha. Riding bike is one of my passion. By profession I am an assistant professor in an Engineering College of Bhubaneswar. This is my review of Hero Honda’s old but gold bike that introduced a new bike segment in India – The Karizma R. The name Karizma comes to mind first while talking about performance bikes in India.

My previous bike was HH Passion Plus, the most popular 100cc bike after Slendor. It is a stylish reliable bike of lower displacement but after 5 years of riding I felt that I need a bike of higher power and torque. Then I purchased Karizma (2010 model) as it fits well to my requirement. I had waited for two months to get my dream bike.
The initial riding experience was awesome. There was increase of 9.5bhp, 11Nm of torque and 126cc of displacement in comparision to PassionPlus. I felt like in heaven for the first few month of riding. My Karizma is now 18 month old and I have done 18000kms till now. I like to share my sweet and sour experience with the black beauty through this review.

Why Karizma?


Karizma looks exclusive and expensive among the bikes of its segment. It gives feeling of a real big bike having a long wheelbase of 1355mm and it is the longest (2125mm) bike among all 250cc and sub 250cc indian bikes (Ninja 250R-2085mm, CBR 250R-2032mm, p220-2035mm, R15-1970mm, ZMR-2110mm).
Karizma own my heart by its beauty. It the most good looking bike in 250cc and sub 250cc segment in india (personal view). Its comfort level is next to a car. Above all it is a VFM machine having good resale value.

Uniqueness of Karizma


  • Karizma has electric as well as kick start option. In cold morning kick start option is a kind of boon.
  • Two cable throttle is another unique feature which very few bikes have.
  • There is a small in-built hole in the exhaust pipe to drain out water.
  • The best looking half-fairing among all Indian bikes.
  • Only Indian bike to have dual tail lamp .

Styling

Though looks is a personal issue, in my view Karizma is an eye catcher despite of its age. It looks awesome in yellow color. The only bike in its segment that looks proportionate in every angle.

The fighter jet design, half fairing, engine under cowl and R lettering put Karizma in a different league among all bikes. The yellow dashboard, black visor, red suspension, golden exhaust pipe and dual tail lamp are the style elements in it.

Features


The dashboard is very well designed in Karizma. It consists of RPM meter, Speedo meter, neutral and high beam indicator, digital trip meter, digital clock, digital odometer and fuel indicator. The dash board look gorgeous with yellow back ground and it helps at night. The digital clock is very handy for me as while going to the office I am in a hurry and cannot look at the wrist watch every time.
The engine under cowl adds style and better aerodynamics. The MRF Zappers give the bike very good grip on roads. The butter smooth gearbox is a rider’s delight.

Rider Comfort


Being the best tourer, comfort is one of major strength in Karizma R. The riding posture is very comfortable. It absorbs all most everything whether it is pothole or humps. I have never felt any kind of discomfort in it. The comfort level almost like a car. I never felt any vibrations up to 110kmph.

Pillion Rider Comfort

A performance bike is not meant for pillion rider’s comfort. But Karizma has got a good and comfortable sitting posture for pillion rider in comparision to other’s bikes in its leauge. My advice is not to carry ladies as pillion rider because seat is too high and one sided sitting posture is not safe at high speeds.
The most pathetic experience in karizma for me was when my mother fell down from the bike while trying to accelerate quickly from a traffic post. She was not aware of the pick up of bike and hence not prepared for the drag. She fell in the highway and backside her head was struck on the road. Thank God, there was no injury and no problem later on.

Performance

Karizma is a proven performer. The 223cc engine generates 17bhp Power and 18.35Nm torque. The rock solid engine can run 24×7 without any stress. Acceleration of Karizma R is amazing though not the best in its segment. The adrenalin rush can be felt from second gear onwards. The power is well distributed in the whole rpm band.

The top speed I achieved is 130kmph (on Speedo). Karizma vibrates a little after 120kmph,but up to 115kmph it is butter smooth.Up to 110kmph it is quick, after that it takes time to accelerate. In 5th gear it denies to go beyond 8k rpm most of the time. It is capable of 115kmph in 4th gear.

Handling

Karizma handles well in any type of road condition (bumpy, dusty and wet). Though the long wheel base requires more turning radius, the cornering is quite well. The handling is equally good at higher speeds. The brake is not quite sharp but spongy. Though the rear one is drum, It works wonderfully. I have applied brake at 110+ kmph speed several times and it stopped within few seconds.
Karizma is a heavy bike (150kg). If one looses balance, the weight of bike will come in the arm and one need some muscle to handle the situation.

Fuel Efficiency


Performance bikes are not fuel efficient. Also fuel efficient bikes are not performance oriented. The mileage varies on riding style and speed. Karizma gives best mileage when driven in 4k-5k rpm in 5th gear. My Karizma gives 42kmpl in highway and 32kmpl in city. Overall I get 36kmpl. It not fair to expect much from a 223cc bike.

Accidents and Mishappening

No major accident in Karizma (thank God and HeroHonda). Once because of an autorickshaw’s sudden right turn I had to brake hard and as a result me and my bike fell down. The left indicator was broken and gear lever was bent.
The bike fell down twice from my hand due to loss of balance-once whlie trying to ride from right side and the other instance was while trying take a slow right turn with pillion rider. The worst happening was felling down of my mother as told earlier.

Maintenance


Karizma is very reliable and hence requires less maintenance. In 1.5year time I have changed the disc brake pads once in 11000Kms worth Rs 1125, headlight bulb worth Rs 90, one taillight bulb worth Rs15, type B throttle cable worth Rs 75, speedo meter inner cable worth Rs 22 and clutch cable of Rs71. In total Rs 1398 except engine oil. I have also changed the broken main stand free of cost under warranty.
Though Karizma spares are costly ,the genuine parts lasts long.

Strength


  • Highly reliable engine
  • Power packed performance
  • Hero Honda service network
  • Excellent ergonomics
  • Smooth gear shift
  • Sound braking system
  • Best for touring
  • Super refined engine
  • Good suspension offers hassle free riding
  • Stability at any speed is top class
  • Pretty grippy tyres

Weakness

  • Horn is same as 100cc bike
  • Head light is not suitable for highway riding.
  • Lack of tubeless tyre
  • No rear disc brake
  • Finding neutral is difficult while riding
  • Cold start problem

Karizma for Me


Karizma is not merely a bike for me. It is a source of confidence, smartness and entertainment for me. It is now one of my basic need. Also it has become one of my identity.

Conclusion


Karizma R is a versatile bike. My overall rating is 8/10. If you are looking for a reliable, smooth, comfortable performance bike with good resale value it is the bike you are looking for. Happy Riding.

Karizma R user review

I feel really proud to write a review this great bike. Hero Honda Karizma is the best that has been launched in India. Now it gets even better with the all new racer edition : The New Karizma R. The price of Karizma is Rs.84000 and the engine packs an awesome 17 horse power in a 223cc Engine..
How does it look?
Indian bikers always wished for a bike like this, a real sporty looking bike, and their dreams have come true with the Karizma. On the first look, people would comment that the bike looks like a fighter jet! The air pockets in the front of the tank has been very precisely carved to blend aerodynamics with beauty.

Hero Honda’s Engineers have put in several months of work in developing their flagship model Karizma. It is not easy to bring a foreign style to India without compromising the engine capacity and mileage (which are the most important factors for Indian bikes). The is technically the first bike in India in which the doom blends with the main body of the bike. One big advantage of this is that the handle bars are free to turn because there is no extra weight attached to it (like the head light and dashboard). Karizma is the first bike in India which came with pre-installed alloy wheels.
I like the tail part of Karizma very much. This is perhaps the only bike in India which features dual tail lamps. When you look at the tail part, it does look like a jet. The slogan ‘Jet Set Go’ is perfect. The seat is little raised for the pillion rider which gives it a really sporty look. The bike has been so perfectly designed that I could not imagine a suggestion for improvement. Considering the overall size of the bike, the tail part does seem to have the right size. In Pulsar, you can notice that the tail is too small compared to the size of its tank, but in Karizma the proportion of the sizes of various parts is perfect.
Hero Honda Karizma
How does it perform?
I can talk about performance all day long, because I have been personally using Karizma for the past four years! But I will try to keep this short and only highlight the main points.
Karizma is undoubtedly the bike with the highest horse power in India. (Considering bikes within the 1 Lakh Range). For a bike of 223 cc, 17 hp is really great! While driving, you can feel the surge of acceleration (and the surge of adrenalin!). You feel like like Hrithik Roshan if you give a full twist to the throttle. My Karizma is the first to dash of when the signal turns green, while others try to catch up with me, I look back to see that they are left far behind!
This bike is suitable both for city riding and riding in highways. As you put the fifth gear and slowly accelerate, the bike maintains its stability upto 110 Kmph, but later it gets a little shaky. I have personally tried going upto 125 Kmph, eventhough the claimed maximum speed is higher, I wouldn’t recommend anyone to go faster than 110.
Looking into the dash board of the Karizma, we can see 2 dials, a RPM meter and a Speedometer and next to it is the digital panel which displays Fuel, a Trip meter, total distance and a digital clock! I really love the clock, I do not need to leave the handle bars to check the time in my wrist while driving! Visit the Karizma Photo Gallery to see pictures of the dash board.
The high beam and neutral indicators are situated in the speedometer dial. The indicators are bright enough so that you can easily see its status in bright sunlight.
Hero Honda Karizma
Some people may think that such fast sport bikes are risky, but in my opinion, Karizma is the safest bike in India. Provided with adequate wheel base and body weight, the bike comes to halt easily from very high speeds without losing any stability.
How does it stand out?
For people who love this bike, it is really hard to admire the competition. Right now Pulsar 220cc seems to be the only competition for Karizma, but I would say that it does not even stand a chance with this legend.
Hero Honda Karizma’s high cost and size is not just for the looks and power. Along with it you also get something priceless… the Self Confidence and the King of the Road feeling. If in your college or institution, you are the only one with a Karizma, imagine the kind of feeling of uniqueness you will get. People will admire you for your bike and you will be known as The man who rides the Karizma.
Too many people have already bought Pulsars, CBZs and Apaches.. If you are planning to buy a 150cc bike, wait for a few months, raise some more money and go for the best. Because great people drive great bikes.
This is perhaps the only bike which has got full rating in BikeAdvice’s Reviews.
BikeAdvice Overall Rating: 5/5
Performance Rating: 5/5
Beauty Rating: 5/5
Pros: Sporty Looks, Fuel Efficiency, The first of its Kind in India
Cons: No leg guard
Karizma Specifications:
Engine: Aircooled single cylinder 4 stroke OHC
Displacement: 223 cc
Maximum Power: 12.68 KW (17 PS) @ 7000 RPM
Maximal Torque: 18.35 N-m @ 6000 RPM
Acceleration: 0 – 60 Kmph in 3.8 Seconds
Gear Box: 5 Speed
Brakes: 276mm Front Disc and 130 mm Rear Drum
Tires: Front: 2.75 x 18 – 42P, Rear: 100/90 x 18 – 56P
Fuel Capacity: 15 Litres (+ 2 Ltrs Reserve)